They are believed to have been expelled from the camp because they are Roma and Gypsies – NRK Oslo and Viken – Local news, TV and radio

Natalina Jansen og Rickhard Hartmann sitter i sofaen hjemme i Sarpsborg. Natalina har på seg en hvit kjole, mens Rickhard er kledd i en blå skjorte med hvite striper.

Now I will say one thing, which will happen from next year,
he will not come …
Now I’m going to say the word I’m not allowed to say, Tyre, here at camp.
Now I will punish everyone.

NRK distorted the sounds in the recording.

The statement comes from a general manager at a camping site in Ostfold, after a heated discussion with some of the guests. It shows a seven-minute video that NRK has access to.

– It made me feel without humans. As Ricard Hartmann says, she had some kind of power and power over us, if only because we belonged to these people.

He and his family belong to the Romanian and Roman minorities and live in Sarpsborg.

Together with friends, the family vacationed at the camp site for ten days. Hartmann believes they were treated differently throughout their stay.

– That I should punish them all was just something I said in the midst of this moment. I have absolutely no intention of that, says the general manager.

I think it was driving under the influence of alcohol

A day before the heated debate, the camp administration accused one of Hartmann’s travel companions of driving under the influence.

After that, some of them must have been asked to leave the camp site the next morning.

NRK is in contact with the driver of the car. He denies that he was under the influence of alcohol when he drove his car into the camping area.

– The general manager may have been tired of someone driving back and forth to get water, and she may have used it as an excuse to say someone had pushed him while drunk, Hartmann speculates.

However, the general manager believed that the person in question was drunk and was a danger to the children who played at the camp site.

– No matter who did it, they were fired. I have to pay attention to everyone out there. An accident could happen.

However, the incident was not reported to the police until the next day.

feel helpless

In 2012 and 2017, the Holocaust Center conducted an attitude survey.

In both years, the Roma turned out to be the minority with whom Norwegians would like to communicate less.

– We’re still exposed today, in 2022, says Hartmann’s companion, Natalina Janssen.

She is also the leader of the Gypsy Council, and throughout her life she has felt stigmatized and discriminated against.

Natalina Janssen

Natalina Janssen is the leader of the Roma Council, and works for the Rome Culture and Resource Center, which builds bridges between Rome and the authorities.

Photo: Benjamin Forland Andersrud/NRK

– Little willingness to do anything about it

There is very little focus on discrimination and racism against Roma and Roma. Few people look at it, and there is little will to do anything about it, as Hatem bin Mansour claims.

He is the Acting Director General of the Center Against Racism. They work to combat racism and discrimination in society.

Mansour says he rarely calls them Roma and Gypsies.

We know they are discriminated against, but unfortunately we don’t hear much from them.

Hatem bin Mansour

Acting Head of the Anti-Racism Center Hatem Ben Mansour.

Photo: Artur do Carmo / NRK

He was expelled from the area

Both Hartmann and the camp’s general manager called the police on Saturday. Police confirmed to NRK that a patrol arrived at the camp site in the afternoon of the same day.

As a result, Hartmann and Jansen were expelled from the area for 24 hours – although they had nothing to do with drunk driving.

The general manager believes that it was the discussion with the camp guests that sparked her vocabulary.

– What you said is racist. I said it in a moment of heat. I am not racist at all. I’m so sorry.

Hartmann and Jansen have now reported the incident to the Equality and Anti-Discrimination Ombudsman. They also have plans to report the case to the police.


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Gypsy or gypsy or gypsy or gypsy?

  • Norway has had groups of Roma-speaking people for several hundred years. Today there are two main groups in the country. These describe themselves as rom and romani.
  • room Forms the Eastern European branch of the Romani people, to difference for Northwestern Europe Romanian/ Tatter.
  • Researchers hypothesize that both species have origins in India, and that they came to Norway in the 16th century. Initially, the Norwegian space was called “gypsy”. The origin of the term is debated. In Norway, “space” has become the official name for the ethnic group today.

gypsy clause:

  • During a six-year period, from 1921 to 1927, the Norwegian authorities designed a consistent “Gypsy policy”. In short, the policy was that the Norwegian state systematically registered the Roma, deprived them of their civil rights and expelled as many of them as possible, and then denied them entry to the country.
  • This policy was reinforced by the so-called “Gypsy clause”.


  • Referring to the “Gypsy clause”, 68 Romanians were denied entry to Norway via Denmark in January 1934. More than half of those refused were born in Norway and most had identity documents linking them to the state.
  • They sometimes traveled to the European continent, but wanted to return to their native Norway. After several expulsions, all Norwegian Romans were deliberately expelled from the country, without the possibility of legal return.
  • For the next ten years, the majority of Norwegian Roma lived in Belgium, where they were granted temporary residence on a so-called humanitarian basis.

Denied access to Norway:

  • From November 1943 to the end of January 1944, the Nazi authorities deported 66 Romanian-Norwegians from occupied Belgium to the Auschwitz II-Birkenau extermination camp. Only four of the 66 deportees survived.
  • The first Norwegian Roma returned to Norway in the summer of 1954. The “Roma Clause” at that time remained unchanged in the Norwegian Aliens Act. In 1956, the “gypsy clause” was officially abolished. For some Roma families, the struggle for Norwegian citizenship continued until the 1970s.

Government apology

  • The HL report Get Rid of Them (2015) documented how the Norwegian authorities pursued an anti-Gypsy policy from 1915 until 1956 that was characterized by racism and exclusion and how this policy contributed to the mass murder of Norwegian Roma. The Nazi regime during World War II.
  • As a result of the report, the government came to Erna Solberg on April 8 with a frank apology to the Norwegian Roma. On the same occasion, the government promised that the Norwegian satellite minority would receive collective compensation.

Visiting the Romans from Romania:

  • In addition to Roma and Gypsy families, there are several other groups of Gypsies in the country. The vast majority come from Romania. Rome’s visit to Norway began in earnest after Romania joined the European Union in 2007.
  • In Romania, Roma are widely discriminated against and marginalized. The main reason why so many people leave the country in search of a better life is unemployment and extreme poverty.
  • The visit of the Romans was often the subject of negative attitudes in the media and public debate.

Source: Church City Mission

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